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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 15:31:11 GMT
Hi Guys
I wanted to get some feedback and possibly ideas, here is the basic gist from CBR user Zauri
Here is my idea Spider Titles
Amazing Spiderman Peter Parker wakes to find that Gwen is ALIVE and living with him in Avengers Tower, say what. Peter learns that he now works with Tony Stark to create Technology that can save lives but also be used with military application. Spider-Man battles his foes in New York City while trying to develop the next gen tech that could save the world. Regular appearances from Aunt May, Gwen, Betty, Nora, Carlie, Mary Jane and Liz Allen. Special Appearances from Sarah Stacy – Gwen’s Niece
Arachid Miles Morales is a big fan of Spider-Man but he learns more than he bargains for when he wakes up and finds himself with Spider Powers. Now Peter (Gwen helps) must train him how to use his powers because after all great power must also come great responsibility.
Specular Scarlet Spider Ben Reilly is back among the living but now he is no longer Peter’s Clone but his brother GASP. Ben uses a newly designed suit to help Spider-Man fight against the might of Kingpin as the Spectular Scarlet Spider. Supporting Cast – Betty, Buzz, Desiree Winthrop, Elizabeth Tyne, Jessica Carradine, Shirley Lewis, Nora.
Sinister Shadow Spider Kaine Parker has never had a family but when he wakes that’s what he has two goofy brothers and a caring mother like figure and now he seems to have a adopted daughter with a price on her head now Kaine will defend them no matter what he has to do and sacrifice to do it even his soul. Supporting Cast: Annabelle Adams, Aracely
Sensational Spider-Women Gwen didn’t sign up to do this, when she fell for Peter Parker she never thought she would end up with Spider powers training the next generation of heroes like Arachid and Spider-Girl(Anya).
Agent Venom Flash Thompson has survived and had a rough time now all he wants to do his to serve the his country and his home. Well Steve Rogers has an idea or two about that.
Iron Man Titles Iron Man Tony Stark almost died but he was able to survive but creating what some would say the ultimate weapon for years he tried to get out of the weapon business now thanks to a talk with his two newest employees he has, now to make sure that now of his tech can be used for evil because if so then they must answer to Iron Man
Hulk Titles Incredible Hulk Bruce Banner has been cleared and has given up curing the hulk now he wants to calm the hulk and turn him from a monster into a hero except why then is a lot of gamma powered monsters turning up. Maybe it’s time for the Hulk to Smash. Featuring Betty Ross, Rick Jones and Marlo Chandler
She Hulk Being a lawyer is stressful now try being a lawyer who is a green amazon. That’s what Jennifer Walters has to deal with.
Captain America
Captain America Steve Rogers works alongside Shield to do battle againist Hydra, AIM and any threat to the USA and the world. Supporting Characters: Black Widow, Melinda May Phil Coulson, Leo Fitz, Jemma Simmons., Sam Wilson.
American Falcon Sam Wilson in a newly designed suit is fighting the good fight anyway he can. Appearances by Steve Rogers, Black Widow, Melinda May Phil Coulson, Leo Fitz, Jemma Simmons.
Winter Solider Bucky has unfinished business with Hydra after what they did to him but why can’t he shake this girl. Features Sharon Carter tracking Bucky and trying to help while Bucky doesn’t like it.
Hawkeye & Mockingbird Being married, spies and really badass what could be bad well Bobbi and Clint are going to find out.
Marvel Titles Captain Marvel Carol Danvers doing what she can the best way she can
Ms Marvel When you wake up with powers what’s the best thing to do, become a super hero of course but Kamala gets the surprised of her life when she meets her idol Captain Marvel.
Thor Titles The Mighty Thor Thor Odinson mighty warrior must protect the Ten Realms. Featuring Angela, Serra, Sif, Brunhilde , Warriors 3
Goddess of Thunder Jane Foster was not expecting this, having a mystical hammer fall in your lap and then transforming and now she battles as the Goddess of Thunder Thordis. Featuring Darcy Lewis.
Journey of Mystery Loki and Amora have done their fair share of mischief and cruel things but they had a line one may not agree with it but to them it made sense but now someone has crossed that line and both of the Asgardian Magic Users aren’t happy.
Cosmic Guardians of the Galaxy What it says on the tin meet your guardians Star Lord, Gamora, Drax, Mantis, Rocket Raccon and Groot
Nova Prime Richard Rider is having a hard time between his life on Earth, his duties as the head of the Nova Corps and now he has some team wanting him as a member and of course there is the New Nova Sam Alexander.
Nova Corps Sam Alexander is new to this thing but the powerful Nova Prime Richard Rider needs him up to scruff soon and Sam doesn’t know if he can make the cut.
Team Books
Avengers Earth Mightiest Hero’s – Avengers Assemble Watch as Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Hulk, Spider-Man, Firestar, Captain Marvel, Spider-Woman and Black Panther do battle against threats no one hero can.
Defenders For those on the edge who believe they are forgotten, dammed and lost, I say meet the seekers. Featuring the stars of Netflix Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Daredevil joined by Misty Knight, Coleen Wing, Elektra, Scarlet Spider, Silver Sable and introducing Cloak and Dagger
Invaders Spies – SHIELD Recon Hawkeye, Mockingbird, American Falcon, Quake, Valkyrie, Ant-Man(Lang), Wasp(Hope) War Machine. Agent Venom.
Midnight Sons Dr Strange and Clea detected a problem that could be disastrous but they aren’t waiting they’re taking the fight straight to this new evil but they won’t do it alone. Featuring Dr Strange, Clea, Witches (Santana, Topaz, Jennifer Kale), Doctor Voodoo,
Howling Commandos Blade has found out the world is changing vampires, werewolfs even demons are coming out of the woodwork. Abigail Brand asks him to lead a team to take down the threats quickly, quietly and permanently. With Blade, Man Thing, Vampire by Night, Lilith, Werewolf by Night and Ghost Rider(Blaze).
Thunderbolts Bucky and Kaine decided to try and help a group of people who are on the wrong path at the same time hoping to redeem their past actions. Feature Winter Solider, Shadow Spider, Songbird, Moonstone, Atlas, Fixer and Mach-IV
Young Avengers The next generation of heroes are coming – who is the American Dream and what is Mainframe. Arachid, Ms Marvel, Hawkeye, Stinger, Wiccan, Speed, White Tiger, Power Man, Nova, Spider Girl and Hulk (Cho).
Any improvements or ideas would be beneficial and I might try writing it.
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Post by Ozymandias on Jul 5, 2016 12:45:49 GMT
I think you should use the "insert quote" button, so that not everything seems like it comes from that Kauri guy. I know it's only the first two paragraphs, but just to be on the safe side of things.
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Post by dav on Jul 12, 2016 19:39:14 GMT
Hi Guys
I wanted to get some feedback and possibly ideas, here is the basic gist from CBR user Zauri
While DC Comics right now is all about celebration and inclusion of both new and old concepts, while them are celebrating what they are, what they were and what they will and are literally hitting all cylinders, Marvel Comics is all about doom and gloom - Vincent Cassel flavored with Bendis-speak - and killing off characters again and again, segregation and divide. Do they really think that when they can't get neither neither new readers or people that read comics for a long time to get excited with their latest status quo shift that this is really the way to go?
Oh well, since all I can do is get more DC Rebirth comics and keep reading old stuff that I haven't checked out yet via the Marvel Unlimited app, I think that creating a thread about creating our own Marvel Rebirth even could be at least entertaining, and maybe give them some ideas to where they should be heading. Not that they would listen anyway, but at least is an interesting exercise at the beginning of a Friday evening. So here we go, what would you do if Kevin Feige of all people called you saying he picked you to 'rebirth' and reinvigorate the Marvel Comics universe? What current and alive creators, with no exclusive with the DC Comics (that we know of) would you get to write and draw the comics that you crave for? Since Marvel Comics seems completely lost with some brave exceptions, let's have some fun and just throw away some ideas out there, shall we?
Here is my idea Spider Titles
Amazing Spiderman Peter Parker wakes to find that Gwen is ALIVE and living with him in Avengers Tower, say what. Peter learns that he now works with Tony Stark to create Technology that can save lives but also be used with military application. Spider-Man battles his foes in New York City while trying to develop the next gen tech that could save the world. Regular appearances from Aunt May, Gwen, Betty, Nora, Carlie, Mary Jane and Liz Allen. Special Appearances from Sarah Stacy – Gwen’s Niece
Arachid Miles Morales is a big fan of Spider-Man but he learns more than he bargains for when he wakes up and finds himself with Spider Powers. Now Peter (Gwen helps) must train him how to use his powers because after all great power must also come great responsibility.
Specular Scarlet Spider Ben Reilly is back among the living but now he is no longer Peter’s Clone but his brother GASP. Ben uses a newly designed suit to help Spider-Man fight against the might of Kingpin as the Spectular Scarlet Spider. Supporting Cast – Betty, Buzz, Desiree Winthrop, Elizabeth Tyne, Jessica Carradine, Shirley Lewis, Nora.
Sinister Shadow Spider Kaine Parker has never had a family but when he wakes that’s what he has two goofy brothers and a caring mother like figure and now he seems to have a adopted daughter with a price on her head now Kaine will defend them no matter what he has to do and sacrifice to do it even his soul. Supporting Cast: Annabelle Adams, Aracely
Sensational Spider-Women Gwen didn’t sign up to do this, when she fell for Peter Parker she never thought she would end up with Spider powers training the next generation of heroes like Arachid and Spider-Girl(Anya).
Agent Venom Flash Thompson has survived and had a rough time now all he wants to do his to serve the his country and his home. Well Steve Rogers has an idea or two about that.
Iron Man Titles Iron Man Tony Stark almost died but he was able to survive but creating what some would say the ultimate weapon for years he tried to get out of the weapon business now thanks to a talk with his two newest employees he has, now to make sure that now of his tech can be used for evil because if so then they must answer to Iron Man
Hulk Titles Incredible Hulk Bruce Banner has been cleared and has given up curing the hulk now he wants to calm the hulk and turn him from a monster into a hero except why then is a lot of gamma powered monsters turning up. Maybe it’s time for the Hulk to Smash. Featuring Betty Ross, Rick Jones and Marlo Chandler
She Hulk Being a lawyer is stressful now try being a lawyer who is a green amazon. That’s what Jennifer Walters has to deal with.
Captain America
Captain America Steve Rogers works alongside Shield to do battle againist Hydra, AIM and any threat to the USA and the world. Supporting Characters: Black Widow, Melinda May Phil Coulson, Leo Fitz, Jemma Simmons., Sam Wilson.
American Falcon Sam Wilson in a newly designed suit is fighting the good fight anyway he can. Appearances by Steve Rogers, Black Widow, Melinda May Phil Coulson, Leo Fitz, Jemma Simmons.
Winter Solider Bucky has unfinished business with Hydra after what they did to him but why can’t he shake this girl. Features Sharon Carter tracking Bucky and trying to help while Bucky doesn’t like it.
Hawkeye & Mockingbird Being married, spies and really badass what could be bad well Bobbi and Clint are going to find out.
Marvel Titles Captain Marvel Carol Danvers doing what she can the best way she can
Ms Marvel When you wake up with powers what’s the best thing to do, become a super hero of course but Kamala gets the surprised of her life when she meets her idol Captain Marvel.
Thor Titles The Mighty Thor Thor Odinson mighty warrior must protect the Ten Realms. Featuring Angela, Serra, Sif, Brunhilde , Warriors 3
Goddess of Thunder Jane Foster was not expecting this, having a mystical hammer fall in your lap and then transforming and now she battles as the Goddess of Thunder Thordis. Featuring Darcy Lewis.
Journey of Mystery Loki and Amora have done their fair share of mischief and cruel things but they had a line one may not agree with it but to them it made sense but now someone has crossed that line and both of the Asgardian Magic Users aren’t happy.
Cosmic Guardians of the Galaxy What it says on the tin meet your guardians Star Lord, Gamora, Drax, Mantis, Rocket Raccon and Groot
Nova Prime Richard Rider is having a hard time between his life on Earth, his duties as the head of the Nova Corps and now he has some team wanting him as a member and of course there is the New Nova Sam Alexander.
Nova Corps Sam Alexander is new to this thing but the powerful Nova Prime Richard Rider needs him up to scruff soon and Sam doesn’t know if he can make the cut.
Team Books
Avengers Earth Mightiest Hero’s – Avengers Assemble Watch as Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Hulk, Spider-Man, Firestar, Captain Marvel, Spider-Woman and Black Panther do battle against threats no one hero can.
Defenders For those on the edge who believe they are forgotten, dammed and lost, I say meet the seekers. Featuring the stars of Netflix Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Daredevil joined by Misty Knight, Coleen Wing, Elektra, Scarlet Spider, Silver Sable and introducing Cloak and Dagger
Invaders Spies – SHIELD Recon Hawkeye, Mockingbird, American Falcon, Quake, Valkyrie, Ant-Man(Lang), Wasp(Hope) War Machine. Agent Venom.
Midnight Sons Dr Strange and Clea detected a problem that could be disastrous but they aren’t waiting they’re taking the fight straight to this new evil but they won’t do it alone. Featuring Dr Strange, Clea, Witches (Santana, Topaz, Jennifer Kale), Doctor Voodoo,
Howling Commandos Blade has found out the world is changing vampires, werewolfs even demons are coming out of the woodwork. Abigail Brand asks him to lead a team to take down the threats quickly, quietly and permanently. With Blade, Man Thing, Vampire by Night, Lilith, Werewolf by Night and Ghost Rider(Blaze).
Thunderbolts Bucky and Kaine decided to try and help a group of people who are on the wrong path at the same time hoping to redeem their past actions. Feature Winter Solider, Shadow Spider, Songbird, Moonstone, Atlas, Fixer and Mach-IV
Young Avengers The next generation of heroes are coming – who is the American Dream and what is Mainframe. Arachid, Ms Marvel, Hawkeye, Stinger, Wiccan, Speed, White Tiger, Power Man, Nova, Spider Girl and Hulk (Cho).
Any improvements or ideas would be beneficial and I might try writing it.
My only interest is in Spider-man, and Gwen so I can only comment on those aspects. Amazing Spider-man: Since Gwen is brought back, I like it! Having Peter working for Tony Stark is pretty cool too. Peter really doesn't get the chance to exercise his scientific genius, and this would be a great way to do good as himself, not just as Spider-man. Has a lot of potential to show more of Peter's personal life which IMHO is what made his character stand out from other superheroes. I would also like Gwen to be working with him in a meaningful way as well and not just be arm candy. Arachnid: Never read anything about Miles, so not really interested, but a Spider-apprentice could have potential. Scarlet Spider: I like Ben Reilly. One of my first ideas for bringing back Gwen was to have her clone and Ben get together and live the life Pete and Gwen were denied. In your scenario, you could do the reverse of what I was considering. Pete and Gwen get together, but for those readers who prefer a single Spider-man they could follow Ben's adventures. Shadow Spider: Kaine was my back-up plan if Ben wasn't brought back, but if done right he could be made to satisfy another Spidey fan demographic. IMHO the reason he didn't work is that he was still too hardened a character. If he were to be softened up and humanized to be more like Peter or Ben he could be made to work. I believe part of the problem with him was readers couldn't empathize with him. IMHO he needs to have some feelings and conscience but also have some flaws for readers to accept his character. I feel he has to be more like-able and maybe SOME of his stories be funny. His stories could have a different tone than Spider-man, but still have him being a hero with flaws. I like the idea of Spider-Gwen, but I still want her to have a relationship with Peter. Maybe they work together on some occasions, but she would have her own adventures. Having a team of Spider-women would be a way for that to happen. Maybe some team with Spider-girl, Spider-woman, Silk, and Spider-Gwen together. I don't see how this could be made to work and have her maintain a relationship with Peter as well, she would almost have to be on her own for this to work, but having the Peter/Gwen relationship is just my preference. Agent Venom: I don't really have an opinion for this idea. I don't know if it would have enough readers to support it's own title, but with good writing, anything could be made to work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 16:17:11 GMT
I think you should use the "insert quote" button, so that not everything seems like it comes from that Kauri guy. I know it's only the first two paragraphs, but just to be on the safe side of things. Done thanks Ozy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 16:36:08 GMT
My only interest is in Spider-man, and Gwen so I can only comment on those aspects. Ok Cool no problem, rubbing my hands with glee. Amazing Spider-man: Since Gwen is brought back, I like it! Having Peter working for Tony Stark is pretty cool too. Peter really doesn't get the chance to exercise his scientific genius, and this would be a great way to do good as himself, not just as Spider-man. Has a lot of potential to show more of Peter's personal life which IMHO is what made his character stand out from other superheroes. I would also like Gwen to be working with him in a meaningful way as well and not just be arm candy. Options I could have Gwen work with Pepper as her assistant/ translator so she would be working with the three of them to run Stark Industries and the Avengers. She could work for a company that benefits from Stark Industries and she acts as a liaison. My preference is the former rather than the later. Arachnid: Never read anything about Miles, so not really interested, but a Spider-apprentice could have potential. Okay so the name doesn’t suck, right miles is in. Scarlet Spider: I like Ben Reilly. One of my first ideas for bringing back Gwen was to have her clone and Ben get together and live the life Pete and Gwen were denied. In your scenario, you could do the reverse of what I was considering. Pete and Gwen get together, but for those readers who prefer a single Spider-man they could follow Ben's adventures. True but there are some relationships from Ben’s time as Spider I would like to try and explore. Shadow Spider: Kaine was my back-up plan if Ben wasn't brought back, but if done right he could be made to satisfy another Spidey fan demographic. IMHO the reason he didn't work is that he was still too hardened a character. If he were to be softened up and humanized to be more like Peter or Ben he could be made to work. I believe part of the problem with him was readers couldn't empathize with him. IMHO he needs to have some feelings and conscience but also have some flaws for readers to accept his character. I feel he has to be more like-able and maybe SOME of his stories be funny. His stories could have a different tone than Spider-man, but still have him being a hero with flaws. For me Kaine is the Spider antihero that’s why I have him appearing on the thunderbolts with Bucky. But the premise is that he didn’t have feelings or a family and now he does so what kind of conflict does that have and it isn’t helped by this young girl appearing and needing him to save her. I like the idea of Spider-Gwen, but I still want her to have a relationship with Peter. Maybe they work together on some occasions, but she would have her own adventures. Having a team of Spider-women would be a way for that to happen. Maybe some team with Spider-girl, Spider-woman, Silk, and Spider-Gwen together. I don't see how this could be made to work and have her maintain a relationship with Peter as well, she would almost have to be on her own for this to work, but having the Peter/Gwen relationship is just my preference. The plan is this is a duo book but more Anya’s book than Gwen’s because she will still appear in the main title quite a bit, kinda like Batman and Robin where Robin has his own series but appears more or less as a regular in Batman. Agent Venom: I don't really have an opinion for this idea. I don't know if it would have enough readers to support it's own title, but with good writing, anything could be made to work. Venom for me unless they have changed it with Marvel Now 2.0 is the Black Ops guy for the Spider- Family This is what I mean Icon – Peter – The Amazing Spider-Man – the big guy that started it all. Street – Ben – The Spectacular Spider-Man (fights organized crime and super-villians) Anti-Hero – Kaine – the Sinister Spider Man – doesn’t mind getting his hands dirty. Distaff – Gwen – Sensational Spider-Women – Ladies can kick ass too. Arachid – Miles – the Rookie who is just learning and learning from his idol. Agent Venom – Flash – the solider. Each member of the Spider-Family has a niche of their own but the main three use different aspects Peter – Brain, Ben – Speed and Kiane – Power.
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Post by Ozymandias on Jul 13, 2016 18:32:49 GMT
I think you should use the "insert quote" button, so that not everything seems like it comes from that Kauri guy. I know it's only the first two paragraphs, but just to be on the safe side of things. Done thanks Ozy You're welcome.
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Post by dav on Jul 13, 2016 20:40:09 GMT
My only interest is in Spider-man, and Gwen so I can only comment on those aspects. Ok Cool no problem, rubbing my hands with glee. Amazing Spider-man: Since Gwen is brought back, I like it! Having Peter working for Tony Stark is pretty cool too. Peter really doesn't get the chance to exercise his scientific genius, and this would be a great way to do good as himself, not just as Spider-man. Has a lot of potential to show more of Peter's personal life which IMHO is what made his character stand out from other superheroes. I would also like Gwen to be working with him in a meaningful way as well and not just be arm candy. Options I could have Gwen work with Pepper as her assistant/ translator so she would be working with the three of them to run Stark Industries and the Avengers. She could work for a company that benefits from Stark Industries and she acts as a liaison. My preference is the former rather than the later. Arachnid: Never read anything about Miles, so not really interested, but a Spider-apprentice could have potential. Okay so the name doesn’t suck, right miles is in. Scarlet Spider: I like Ben Reilly. One of my first ideas for bringing back Gwen was to have her clone and Ben get together and live the life Pete and Gwen were denied. In your scenario, you could do the reverse of what I was considering. Pete and Gwen get together, but for those readers who prefer a single Spider-man they could follow Ben's adventures. True but there are some relationships from Ben’s time as Spider I would like to try and explore. Shadow Spider: Kaine was my back-up plan if Ben wasn't brought back, but if done right he could be made to satisfy another Spidey fan demographic. IMHO the reason he didn't work is that he was still too hardened a character. If he were to be softened up and humanized to be more like Peter or Ben he could be made to work. I believe part of the problem with him was readers couldn't empathize with him. IMHO he needs to have some feelings and conscience but also have some flaws for readers to accept his character. I feel he has to be more like-able and maybe SOME of his stories be funny. His stories could have a different tone than Spider-man, but still have him being a hero with flaws. For me Kaine is the Spider antihero that’s why I have him appearing on the thunderbolts with Bucky. But the premise is that he didn’t have feelings or a family and now he does so what kind of conflict does that have and it isn’t helped by this young girl appearing and needing him to save her. I like the idea of Spider-Gwen, but I still want her to have a relationship with Peter. Maybe they work together on some occasions, but she would have her own adventures. Having a team of Spider-women would be a way for that to happen. Maybe some team with Spider-girl, Spider-woman, Silk, and Spider-Gwen together. I don't see how this could be made to work and have her maintain a relationship with Peter as well, she would almost have to be on her own for this to work, but having the Peter/Gwen relationship is just my preference. The plan is this is a duo book but more Anya’s book than Gwen’s because she will still appear in the main title quite a bit, kinda like Batman and Robin where Robin has his own series but appears more or less as a regular in Batman. Agent Venom: I don't really have an opinion for this idea. I don't know if it would have enough readers to support it's own title, but with good writing, anything could be made to work. Venom for me unless they have changed it with Marvel Now 2.0 is the Black Ops guy for the Spider- Family This is what I mean Icon – Peter – The Amazing Spider-Man – the big guy that started it all. Street – Ben – The Spectacular Spider-Man (fights organized crime and super-villians) Anti-Hero – Kaine – the Sinister Spider Man – doesn’t mind getting his hands dirty. Distaff – Gwen – Sensational Spider-Women – Ladies can kick ass too. Arachid – Miles – the Rookie who is just learning and learning from his idol. Agent Venom – Flash – the solider. Each member of the Spider-Family has a niche of their own but the main three use different aspects Peter – Brain, Ben – Speed and Kiane – Power. My computer skills are limited so I don't know how to separate quotes! I'm just gonna number my replies to the corresponding paragraph. Please bear with me! #2 Since Gwen was also a science major, I see her as working in R&D maybe like a Spider-man Version of "Q." I also see her out in the field with Peter, sometimes, modifying special equipment for use in specific circumstances, but also playing an active role as well, maybe backing him up with her own special weapons. I know there is a movie or TV show that has used this kind of trope before, but I can't think of one right now! The main point is that she would be an integral part of Peter's life and not "boring." Not the damsel in distress, or the doting girlfriend waiting at home, but someone that would be important enough so that Marvel would have difficulty killing her off--again. #3 Gwen could also be used to train him. Perhaps Stark could set up a separate department for Spider-man to do his own thing. That way Peter could still have a separate life from Tony and his own adventures, but of course the occasional crossovers. Just spit-balling on a tangent here. Like I said, I don't know much about Miles! #4 Agreed. Ben basically has Peter's personality, but his life is different. He could have the adventures Peter would have had in a different situation. Different friends, different villans and maybe even a different location, like Chicago or LA or something, but with the occasional crossover adventures with Peter, of course! #5 Don't know much about the Thunderbolts, but If Kaine were to develop more of a sense of duty and justice and be more capable of compassion then I think it could be made to work. IMHO it was this lack of likeability that made his title fizzle and why Spider-man is still as popular as he is. He can still get his hands dirty and cross morale lines that Spidey wouldn't but I think he needs to be more conflicted about doing what's necessary. I feel he needs to have SOME conscience. #6 Having Gwen with powers would mean that she could be an even more integral role in Spidey's life and there would also be room for her to have her own adventures which would make it even harder for Marvel to kill her off--again! Having her be a recurring character in several titles as well as a major secondary character in ASM would almost ensure she stays around. I don't see her being able to maintain her own title, AND be a big part of Peter's life, but several recurring roles could work very well. #7 I don't know anything about Flash as Venom, but if he would be doing black ops, there might be a place for Kaine to work with him, since black ops tends to be morally ambiguous anyway. Maybe flash could be Kaine's moral compass in some areas and Kaine be Flash's moral compass in others. If my image of Flash in this role is similar to what it actually is, then I can see them arguing all the time about what to do in various circumstances. They could end up getting into fights, but after the smoke clears, they see each others perspective and come up with a plan that will work. Two reluctant partners that end up complementing each other. It could actually lead to some funny as well as dark story lines. But these are your ideas, I'm just expressing my point of view. Hopefully my input can lead to some inspiration to develop these ideas more. Hope so!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 10:43:59 GMT
My computer skills are limited so I don't know how to separate quotes! I'm just gonna number my replies to the corresponding paragraph. Please bear with me! Ok well mine aren’t so if you don’t mind let me help you out, when replying in the BBCode section you want to add the following code quote timestamp="1468442409" source="/post/2362/thread" author="authorname" in square brackets before each paragraph and end with a / then the word quote in square brackets it works well enough for me anyway if in doubt the preview should give you a starting point but it’s the same code I use but hey you can reply anyway you want Freedom rocks. #2 Since Gwen was also a science major, I see her as working in R&D maybe like a Spider-man Version of "Q." I also see her out in the field with Peter, sometimes, modifying special equipment for use in specific circumstances, but also playing an active role as well, maybe backing him up with her own special weapons. I know there is a movie or TV show that has used this kind of trope before, but I can't think of one right now! The main point is that she would be an integral part of Peter's life and not "boring." Not the damsel in distress, or the doting girlfriend waiting at home, but someone that would be important enough so that Marvel would have difficulty killing her off--again. Well considering that Gwen would be this universe's version of Spider-Woman I’m thinking of a dream team vibe. Of course people are going to think she is redundant if she has the exact same powers but for me it’s how she would use them. I think Gwen would be the gracefully one or at least the most gracefully with her powers. #3 Gwen could also be used to train him. Perhaps Stark could set up a separate department for Spider-man to do his own thing. That way Peter could still have a separate life from Tony and his own adventures, but of course the occasional crossovers. Just spit-balling on a tangent here. Like I said, I don't know much about Miles! What I was think was more like Horizon more than anything else with the odd teaching moment from Tony. So Peter gets his own station/Lab and can build or develop anything he wants but so long as he can use it in a non-weaponized way to help people as well as make some money Tony will let him do what he wants the only difference is that he needs an admin person which Gwen could be as well as helping develop some of it. For me it worked and also Tony wouldn’t need to do more than cameo when he presents it and that’s when Gwen could translate for Pepper. I think I’m trying to stick to cameo’s more than anything else. #4 Agreed. Ben basically has Peter's personality, but his life is different. He could have the adventures Peter would have had in a different situation. Different friends, different villans and maybe even a different location, like Chicago or LA or something, but with the occasional crossover adventures with Peter, of course! I think I would keep both in New York but have Peter more like the business world and big company villians with a few like Goblin and Ock as well but Ben is more street level I would have him working on the street at the Daily Grind with Shirley and Devon I could also have the Daily Grind be a chain and open one somewhere else but it’s the whole travel thing for his new avengers duties that would annoy me but I suppose Cloak and Dagger wouldn’t mind. #5 Don't know much about the Thunderbolts, but If Kaine were to develop more of a sense of duty and justice and be more capable of compassion then I think it could be made to work. IMHO it was this lack of likeability that made his title fizzle and why Spider-man is still as popular as he is. He can still get his hands dirty and cross morale lines that Spidey wouldn't but I think he needs to be more conflicted about doing what's necessary. I feel he needs to have SOME conscience. Thunderbolts is kinda like the Suicide Squad, Bad Guys doing missions no-one wants to for no reason other than redemption which is why I wanted Bucky(Winter Solider) and Kaine because their past are kind dark they have done things they aren’t proud of but they did it and now they want to make up for it but at the same time they want to help these people find the right path maybe even become avengers someday. #6 Having Gwen with powers would mean that she could be an even more integral role in Spidey's life and there would also be room for her to have her own adventures which would make it even harder for Marvel to kill her off--again! Having her be a recurring character in several titles as well as a major secondary character in ASM would almost ensure she stays around. I don't see her being able to maintain her own title, AND be a big part of Peter's life, but several recurring roles could work very well. While for me Gwen is important I need someone that Anya can go to and learn from, I have this thing about big sisters and baby sisters which is really me exploring it but heed my words Anya is learning but you kidnap her and hurt her run like the wind she has 3 big brothers who will very kindly hand you your ass and Gwen would be worse. I love the trope of the badass family and for me with my Marvel Rebirth that’s the aim, Family by choice or by blood it doesn’t matter because if the shit hits the fan someone is getting a beating now that’s not possibly it’s a fact these heroes care touch their families you are getting hurt bad. #7 I don't know anything about Flash as Venom, but if he would be doing black ops, there might be a place for Kaine to work with him, since black ops tends to be morally ambiguous anyway. Maybe flash could be Kaine's moral compass in some areas and Kaine be Flash's moral compass in others. If my image of Flash in this role is similar to what it actually is, then I can see them arguing all the time about what to do in various circumstances. They could end up getting into fights, but after the smoke clears, they see each others perspective and come up with a plan that will work. Two reluctant partners that end up complementing each other. It could actually lead to some funny as well as dark story lines. I don’t think I would have Kaine be in the book all the time but a crossover or two I could see happening But these are your ideas, I'm just expressing my point of view. Hopefully my input can lead to some inspiration to develop these ideas more. Hope so! Na Dav its fine, it does give me some inspiration but for me I think I would do something like this Crossovers Venom – Sinister Shadow Spider – Because I think I could see them playing off each other especially since Flash is a huge Spidey fan boy. Arachid – Sensational Spider-Women – The kids playing overseen by the Momma Bear. Spider-Man – Scarlet Spider – After all Peter and Gwen must remember their roots. Once every Volume (24 issues/chapters) a family crossover I'll try and stick to it but sometimes it’s so easy to just have them turn up together or maybe I should do a Web Warriors title bi monthly which has all spiders unite and forget about the family event. What do you think.
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